Comments on: Open Embarrassment http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/ Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:22:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Lydia http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-89987 Lydia Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:53:44 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-89987 This was most disturbing to me: "having a kid is a burden that doesn't go away for 15 or 20 years. I tell myself frequently "but it's a burden that 90% of the world seems to want more than anything" and I understand mentally why that is (I wrote a g.d. book about it), and I trust that someday I will feel those feelings again - of relating to why people would get pregnant, why they would want to make mini-me's...." ~Bethany Torode Not only has she recanted, but now she sees no reason why anyone would want a child. I hope her children don't pick up on this feeling of hers. This was most disturbing to me:

“having a kid is a burden that doesn’t go away for 15 or 20 years. I tell myself frequently “but it’s a burden that 90% of the world seems to want more than anything” and I understand mentally why that is (I wrote a g.d. book about it), and I trust that someday I will feel those feelings again – of relating to why people would get pregnant, why they would want to make mini-me’s….” ~Bethany Torode

Not only has she recanted, but now she sees no reason why anyone would want a child. I hope her children don’t pick up on this feeling of hers.

]]> By: Naturallawyer http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-87697 Naturallawyer Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:33:09 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-87697 Wow, that is really sad. I just checked out Bethany's blog; heart-breaking. While I say the following in respect and love for Ms. Patchin, her story and writings on her blog are a reminder of the difficulties that follow when one allows emotion to strongly influence one's moral beliefs. Ms. Patchin's statement that "I was thinking instead of feeling, and God does not reside in our heads, that's fer damn sure" is rather scary. God cares about our minds. As C.S. Lewis said, "The heart never takes the place of the head: but it can, and should, obey it." (Abolition of Man) Wow, that is really sad. I just checked out Bethany’s blog; heart-breaking. While I say the following in respect and love for Ms. Patchin, her story and writings on her blog are a reminder of the difficulties that follow when one allows emotion to strongly influence one’s moral beliefs. Ms. Patchin’s statement that “I was thinking instead of feeling, and God does not reside in our heads, that’s fer damn sure” is rather scary.

God cares about our minds. As C.S. Lewis said, “The heart never takes the place of the head: but it can, and should, obey it.” (Abolition of Man)

]]> By: josquin http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-87689 josquin Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:26:08 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-87689 http://bethanypatchin.blogspot.com/ http://bethanypatchin.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Eric http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-87454 Eric Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:59:23 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-87454 Josquin—Where'd you hear this? I did some searching but couldn't find anything. Josquin—Where’d you hear this? I did some searching but couldn’t find anything.

]]> By: josquin http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-87345 josquin Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:12:12 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-87345 And now the Torodes are divorced. Sad all around . . . . . And now the Torodes are divorced. Sad all around . . . . .

]]> By: Naturallawyer http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-86109 Naturallawyer Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:11:02 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-86109 I was shocked to learn (a few minutes ago) of the Torodes' recantation. I have a copy of Open Embrace on my shelf, which I read as part of an investigation into the natural law arguments against birth control. I am a non-married evangelical (with an appreciation for the Catholic Church and its scholarship), and was confused by the Torodes' comments. Your response (which I found through google) helped me to remember why I decided that birth control is contrary to the natures of our bodies. Thanks for that... I was shocked to learn (a few minutes ago) of the Torodes’ recantation. I have a copy of Open Embrace on my shelf, which I read as part of an investigation into the natural law arguments against birth control.

I am a non-married evangelical (with an appreciation for the Catholic Church and its scholarship), and was confused by the Torodes’ comments. Your response (which I found through google) helped me to remember why I decided that birth control is contrary to the natures of our bodies. Thanks for that…

]]> By: When Should You Have Babies? | bathgatesdotnet http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-75564 When Should You Have Babies? | bathgatesdotnet Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:26:46 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-75564 [...] must have been embarrassing for the Torodes, and they received no small measure of vitriol from Roman Catholic apologists for their trouble. This is indicative of the passion that the topic rouses in people. After all, [...] [...] must have been embarrassing for the Torodes, and they received no small measure of vitriol from Roman Catholic apologists for their trouble. This is indicative of the passion that the topic rouses in people. After all, [...]

]]> By: Sarah http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-58854 Sarah Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:56:05 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-58854 Eric, Thank you. Very well thought-out response. I am very sad about the Torode's recantation, and I pray that it won't do damage to other young, vulnerable couples. Thanks again. Eric,
Thank you. Very well thought-out response. I am very sad about the Torode’s recantation, and I pray that it won’t do damage to other young, vulnerable couples. Thanks again.

]]> By: Holly http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-57925 Holly Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:28:18 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-57925 I have a soloution to the problem of abstaining so often. Have more children. : ) Do we not believe the word of God? "Children are an heritage from the Lord. They are a reward from him." Train them right and they truly will give you rest. Live with less and you can afford them. There's nothing better than a sunny afternoon at the swingset surrounded by happy, obedient children. Except, of course, for the activity which brought them about. My husband and I have a fantastic love life. We are not Catholic but we are christians. I am considering using NFP for the first time (after using nothing for the last five years {and three children}) to give us a little time after he gets home from his deployment (the last one!) to settle and get used to being a family with him again. Has anyone heard of the Duggars? Google them if you haven't. Blessings! I have a soloution to the problem of abstaining so often. Have more children. : ) Do we not believe the word of God? “Children are an heritage from the Lord. They are a reward from him.” Train them right and they truly will give you rest. Live with less and you can afford them. There’s nothing better than a sunny afternoon at the swingset surrounded by happy, obedient children. Except, of course, for the activity which brought them about.

My husband and I have a fantastic love life. We are not Catholic but we are christians. I am considering using NFP for the first time (after using nothing for the last five years {and three children}) to give us a little time after he gets home from his deployment (the last one!) to settle and get used to being a family with him again. Has anyone heard of the Duggars? Google them if you haven’t. Blessings!

]]> By: Eric http://squarezero.org/2006/open-embarrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-2945 Eric Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:27:06 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-2945 Sorry, Tim, my brother, I don't get it. How do you extract from these couple of quotes from the Bible that it's okay to sterilize a woman's body with chemicals or insert a latex barrier between husband and wife? Sorry, Tim, my brother, I don’t get it. How do you extract from these couple of quotes from the Bible that it’s okay to sterilize a woman’s body with chemicals or insert a latex barrier between husband and wife?

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