Comments on: Open Embarrassment http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:17:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Sarah http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-58854 Sarah Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:56:05 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-58854 Eric, Thank you. Very well thought-out response. I am very sad about the Torode's recantation, and I pray that it won't do damage to other young, vulnerable couples. Thanks again. Eric,
Thank you. Very well thought-out response. I am very sad about the Torode’s recantation, and I pray that it won’t do damage to other young, vulnerable couples. Thanks again.

]]> By: Holly http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-57925 Holly Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:28:18 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-57925 I have a soloution to the problem of abstaining so often. Have more children. : ) Do we not believe the word of God? "Children are an heritage from the Lord. They are a reward from him." Train them right and they truly will give you rest. Live with less and you can afford them. There's nothing better than a sunny afternoon at the swingset surrounded by happy, obedient children. Except, of course, for the activity which brought them about. My husband and I have a fantastic love life. We are not Catholic but we are christians. I am considering using NFP for the first time (after using nothing for the last five years {and three children}) to give us a little time after he gets home from his deployment (the last one!) to settle and get used to being a family with him again. Has anyone heard of the Duggars? Google them if you haven't. Blessings! I have a soloution to the problem of abstaining so often. Have more children. : ) Do we not believe the word of God? “Children are an heritage from the Lord. They are a reward from him.” Train them right and they truly will give you rest. Live with less and you can afford them. There’s nothing better than a sunny afternoon at the swingset surrounded by happy, obedient children. Except, of course, for the activity which brought them about.

My husband and I have a fantastic love life. We are not Catholic but we are christians. I am considering using NFP for the first time (after using nothing for the last five years {and three children}) to give us a little time after he gets home from his deployment (the last one!) to settle and get used to being a family with him again. Has anyone heard of the Duggars? Google them if you haven’t. Blessings!

]]> By: Eric http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-2945 Eric Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:27:06 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-2945 Sorry, Tim, my brother, I don't get it. How do you extract from these couple of quotes from the Bible that it's okay to sterilize a woman's body with chemicals or insert a latex barrier between husband and wife? Sorry, Tim, my brother, I don’t get it. How do you extract from these couple of quotes from the Bible that it’s okay to sterilize a woman’s body with chemicals or insert a latex barrier between husband and wife?

]]> By: Tim C http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-2931 Tim C Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:36:43 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-2931 Brothers and sisters, respectfully, I think you all are totally missing the point: <ul> <li>Drink and eat a lot with family and friends (Deuteronomy 14.22-27; Ecclesiastes 9.7 ).</li> <li>Include strangers, people below your socio-economic status, and characters of ill-repute in these parties–if you notice they aren't being treated in a really welcoming manner, you may need to invite fewer of your friends in order to produce the right environment (Deuteronomy 16.10-15; Luke 14.12-14 ; Luke 15.1, 2).</li> <li>Have frequent sex with your spouse (Ecclesiastes 9.9; First Corinthians 7.2-5).</li> <li>Enjoy your work (Ecclesiastes 9.10).</li> <li>Work hard (Ecclesiastes 11.6).</li> <li>Worship God in public with other people (Psalm 100, ad infinitum).</li> <li>Sing really violent songs as prayers (The Psalms).</li> <li>Loan money without expecting payment in return (Luke 6.35).</li> <li>Pursue profit in business–otherwise you are never going to be able to afford to be open handed (Luke 19.20-26; Ephesians 4.28).</li> <li>Enjoy the luxuries you have (Ecclesiastes 9.8).</li> <li>If it is an especially holy day, and you hear the Law of God and are feeling especially convicted for your many sins,make sure you don't weep but rather go party and share food and fellowship with others (Nehemiah 8).</li> <li>Gently restore people you catch in wrongdoing and don't demand payback when you are the victim (Galatians 6.1, 2).</li> <li>Teach your children to be spiritual (Deuteronomy 6.1-9).</li> <li>Don't care if anyone else judges you or your children as unspiritual; care what God thinks ( Romans 2.28, 29).</li> </ul> From <a href="http://markhorne.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/how-to-be-spiritual-according-to-the-bible">Mark Horne's blog</a>. Brothers and sisters, respectfully, I think you all are totally missing the point:

  • Drink and eat a lot with family and friends (Deuteronomy 14.22-27; Ecclesiastes 9.7 ).
  • Include strangers, people below your socio-economic status, and characters of ill-repute in these parties–if you notice they aren’t being treated in a really welcoming manner, you may need to invite fewer of your friends in order to produce the right environment (Deuteronomy 16.10-15; Luke 14.12-14 ; Luke 15.1, 2).
  • Have frequent sex with your spouse (Ecclesiastes 9.9; First Corinthians 7.2-5).
  • Enjoy your work (Ecclesiastes 9.10).
  • Work hard (Ecclesiastes 11.6).
  • Worship God in public with other people (Psalm 100, ad infinitum).
  • Sing really violent songs as prayers (The Psalms).
  • Loan money without expecting payment in return (Luke 6.35).
  • Pursue profit in business–otherwise you are never going to be able to afford to be open handed (Luke 19.20-26; Ephesians 4.28).
  • Enjoy the luxuries you have (Ecclesiastes 9.8).
  • If it is an especially holy day, and you hear the Law of God and are feeling especially convicted for your many sins,make sure you don’t weep but rather go party and share food and fellowship with others (Nehemiah 8).
  • Gently restore people you catch in wrongdoing and don’t demand payback when you are the victim (Galatians 6.1, 2).
  • Teach your children to be spiritual (Deuteronomy 6.1-9).
  • Don’t care if anyone else judges you or your children as unspiritual; care what God thinks ( Romans 2.28, 29).

From Mark Horne’s blog.

]]> By: Square Zero » Blog Archive » The Orthodox & Contraception http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-432 Square Zero » Blog Archive » The Orthodox & Contraception Thu, 11 May 2006 06:11:31 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-432 [...] Fortunately, there are smart guys like Karl Schudt out there to help me along. Karl has just followed through on his promise to post a critique of the Meyendorff book cited by Sam and Bethany Torode in their letter explaining why they no longer oppose contraception (which I have addressed in several recent posts). [...] […] Fortunately, there are smart guys like Karl Schudt out there to help me along. Karl has just followed through on his promise to post a critique of the Meyendorff book cited by Sam and Bethany Torode in their letter explaining why they no longer oppose contraception (which I have addressed in several recent posts). […]

]]> By: Eric http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-387 Eric Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:32:08 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-387 Thanks for poingint out the Wellborn discussion. Didn't come up in my searches on Google and Technorati, or even at Catholic Blogs. I think I'll blog more about this thing later—there's more to say. Thanks for poingint out the Wellborn discussion. Didn’t come up in my searches on Google and Technorati, or even at Catholic Blogs. I think I’ll blog more about this thing later—there’s more to say.

]]> By: Renee http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-386 Renee Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:08:32 +0000 http://squarezero.org/2006-0428/open-embarrassment/#comment-386 You should take a look at Amy Welborn's blog entry that brought all this up. Some VERY interesting comments, although there were 180 of them last I looked. I plan on going back and copying a few of them because they are so well written. Seems to me this discussion needs to take place in all corners of the church. Based on our conversation with a certain seminarian yesterday, there is alot of confusion, misinformation, and maybe even deception going on in the church. Lot's of "making it up as we go along" type thinking. Yikes!! You should take a look at Amy Welborn’s blog entry that brought all this up. Some VERY interesting comments, although there were 180 of them last I looked. I plan on going back and copying a few of them because they are so well written.

Seems to me this discussion needs to take place in all corners of the church. Based on our conversation with a certain seminarian yesterday, there is alot of confusion, misinformation, and maybe even deception going on in the church. Lot’s of “making it up as we go along” type thinking. Yikes!!

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